As an industrial engineer, cum aspiring and then successful entrepreneur.

And I did well, I graduated with honors, cum laude.

Innovation by her when she was in class 10th a washing machine cum exercising machine.

Now JPL, NASA and Boeing, before they will hire a research and development problem solver even if they're summa cum laude from Harvard or Cal Tech if they haven't fixed cars, haven't done stuff with their hands early in life, played with their hands, they can't problem solve as well.