And then, how much am I making from the business now?

And that's a bad quarterly statement. I didn't make up the rules.

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This is really important to pay attention to, because so many people say, oh, a company made this much.

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I'm talking about all companies.

Open 24 hours.

But now, over this period of time, over 2008, 2008 happens.

A health food company.

Construction.

This place is closed, ladies.

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I'm a salesman.

I am a member of the sales department.

So now we add an interesting line.

We decided to infiltrate some companies and do a very similar thing.

It's open 24 hours a day. You can go in day or night.

Is it open round the clock?

I prefer to work on my own.

So that's a nice thing to keep in the back of your mind, this return on asset concept, and it's very closely tied to operating profits and the actual assets of a firm.

And that's because they have the same exact asset.

Thus The Pirate Bay isn't idealistic.

That's what depreciation does.

You little...

Twentyfourhour Alex Cam.

As of now... myself.

But here you see it means very, very different things.

We are in the black this month.

And we add back the interest, at least in this example, we get to an operating profit number.

This was interest. This was non op income.

And then I was left with 1 million.

Are you open?

Is it open?

Our business hours...

He runs a company in Meguro.

That publishing company is in the black.

But in general if you take EBlT and you take out the non operating income, you get back to operating profits.

It's been losing money hand over fist for years now.

He carried on business for many years.

He did the work on his own.

He is the manager of the marketing department.

And these metrics will tell you that.

It might be Ben's management expertise.